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How strong was cell and frieza; Freiza cell gt
Topic Started: Dec 12 2011, 05:41 AM (4,857 Views)
Mjentsch
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I was wondering, how strong do you guys think cell and frieza weee during there bout with goku in hell in gt?

Idk if they were the same strength as they were in z just with a few new techniques and the power of immortlity (since they cant die again). Or if they are truly stronger.

If they are stronger how strong would you estimate they are? Stronger then buu (which forms), ss3 goku, mystic gohan?

Also, do you think cell is still far superior to frieza or they are around the same level at this point?
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They stated they were a lot stronger than they used to be. I don't know how strong, but I'd say stronger than Innocent Boo, I guess.
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Logically not stronger than ssj3 Goku from Z, but strong. I'd place them somewhere around Vegeta SSJ2 pre Majin.

The thing you have to remember is that they weren't i implied to have gotten stronger or trained in Z while in hell, just in GT which presumably happened after watching Goku vs Kid Buu. I do think they made gains but it wasn't overly significant, if it was, Piccolo wouldn't call the place that they were living target practice for himself. I think he was basically where Goku was at ssj2 level wise on Babadis ship btw.
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Dec 13 2011, 05:22 AM
Logically not stronger than ssj3 Goku from Z, but strong. I'd place them somewhere around Vegeta SSJ2 pre Majin.

The thing you have to remember is that they weren't i implied to have gotten stronger or trained in Z while in hell, just in GT which presumably happened after watching Goku vs Kid Buu. I do think they made gains but it wasn't overly significant, if it was, Piccolo wouldn't call the place that they were living target practice for himself. I think he was basically where Goku was at ssj2 level wise on Babadis ship btw.
Piccolo also got a lot stronger between Z and GT. He went from way below the kids to stronger than their Super Saiyan forms, even after they'd powered up in the RoSaT and trained once in a while after Boo's defeat.
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I'd put them around SSJ2 Goku/Majin Vegeta lvl
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I put them just above Good Buu's level.
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I have them at twice their Z level, and that's being nice, frieza and cell probably do very little, if any, training
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Dec 13 2011, 02:59 PM
I have them at twice their Z level, and that's being nice, frieza and cell probably do very little, if any, training
Why would they feel confident against base Goku (who had the same power as his former SSJ Z self) then?
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I have to agree with others. Id put them at SSJ2/Majin Vegeta level.
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Freeza would have to be above the level of power Cell used against Goku in order to feel confident IMO. He and Cell both knew Goku trained for years after they fought him, so they had to have calculated some kind of strength increase for him.

I'd put them both at least on Pure Evil Boo's level actually (the gray one). I don't know why exactly, just feel it's a good place. It's not like it makes much of a difference though, whether they're around the Boo Saga SSjin 2's or Pure Evil Boo.
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Yea Cell and Freeza being confident seems to put them above Kid Buu. The GT rule is just assume everyone is stronger than Kid Buu and work from there.
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p123
Dec 15 2011, 08:21 PM
Yea Cell and Freeza being confident seems to put them above Kid Buu. The GT rule is just assume everyone is stronger than Kid Buu and work from there.
so gt nappa and gt saibamen is stronger than kid buu? lol, super flawed

and if turles, cooler, and broly appeared in gt they would be stronger than kid buu? also super flawed
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I see Freeza as SSJ2 Vegeta pre Majin and Cell a bit above Good Boo.
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Frieza: Between Good Boo and Pure Evil Boo tier
Cell: Fat Boo tier
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Not strong enough, apparently.
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